Zell first got Carville on the phone for me so that I could set up a meeting with him and Begala. 首先我，泽尔为我打通了卡维尔的电话，以便我能与卡维尔及贝加拉约定见面事宜。
Carville was a Louisiana Cajun and ex-marine who had a great strategic sense and a deep commitment to progressive politics. 卡维尔是移居美国路易斯安那州的法国人后裔，做过海军陆战队员，极有谋略，深入地献身于进步主义政治。
