Zell first got Carville on the phone for me so that I could set up a meeting with him and Begala. 首先我，泽尔为我打通了卡维尔的电话，以便我能与卡维尔及贝加拉约定见面事宜。
To give Zell his due, the Tribune Company had plenty of problems when he took over, and shareholders like me owe him a debt of thanks. 对泽尔说句公道话，他接手时论坛公司的确存在很多问题，像我一样，各股东对他也有感恩之情。
